Hey, Zak, s'me again. Are you interested in purchasing some obscure sound effect records off eBay? These in particular are from the Robert Hall label, and I've been really interested in these for sometime now. It'd be nice to see if any of these have any familar effects, y'know? Links below:
Pretty interesting, but I am still saving my money for something else. But one sound effects LP I AM looking to buy is the Major Records/Valentino Sound Effects Volume 28, as that one has a bunch of train sound effects on it.
The train sound I am looking for in partiuclar is the diesel horn at 0:03 here...
I'm pretty sure it is a Valentino sound effect, since I've heard DePatie-Freleng, the precursor to Marvel Productions, use it in the "What's New, Mr. Magoo?" episode "Millionaire Magoo," and I also heard it used in a 1967 railway safety film "The Right Track," alongside a few other Valentino and Standard sound effects. I'm guessing it might be track 1 or 4 on Side 2 of the LP. Track 3 most likely appears to be Sound Ideas, TRAIN, DIESEL - PASS BY WITH HORN, DOPPLER EFFECT from the International Sound Effects Library (which I also heard Marvel use in the syndicated "Spider-Man" episode "Revenge of the Green Goblin" for the doomed train Norman Osborn was riding on.)
BTW, as you could probaby tell I bought that Valentino LP with the train sounds, and yep, that diesel train sound from that "G.I. Joe" PSA was on it, and it was actually Track 3 (instead of that track being Sound Ideas, TRAIN, DIESEL - PASS BY WITH HORN, DOPPLER EFFECT, as I initially thought.) Track 4 also had a Union Pacific diesel train sound I also heard used in that "What's New, Mr. Magoo?" episode, and I also recognized the "Train Yard Effects" track from "Snoopy, Come Home!" I may soon get around to ripping more of the steam train sounds on the LP, as I recognized a few from "Sesame Street" and "The Electric Company."
Now I want to find the Valentino LP that has the magic gliss sound heard at 2:00 here, as I've heard it used in quite a few DePatie-Freleng cartoons...
(BTW, I know it's not Valentino Magical Bell Scale, but it's something else. It could be one of their Chinese Bell Tree sounds. But it is fun recognizing sounds heard on "Sesame Street," the Golden Book Videos and several DePatie-Freleng/Bill Melendez cartoons from the Valentino library!)
Ah, nice finds! Here's hoping you find R-B TRAIN, STEAM - STEAM TRAIN WHISTLE, SEVERAL BLASTS, as that's likely on a Major LP.
I think I can totally relate to you how you feel about finding all those sounds. It's always wonderful when you're going through a production music website or something and you find a sound or track you've been wondering about.
Hey, do you think MAGIC - MAGIC BELL GLISS UP 02 is a Valentino sound? Somehow I think it might be one of those "Chinese Bell Tree" effects as well.
Honestly, if the Standard Sound Effect 78 with the "SPACE OSCILLATIONS" ever pops up on eBay - I suggest you go for it - there might also be other weird electronic sounds on there worth logging here.
Just a message to tell you that I'm actually taking one of the Format Films Road-Runner cartoons and replacing a lot of the Jay Ward FX with (mainly) the classic WB effects. Are you interested in seeing it when I'm finished?
SqueakyCartWheel wrote: I hate to sound impatient - but did you get to checking out my project yet?
I just did, and it was pretty good! Felt a lot like something DigiPost.TV might do. Made the cartoon a lot less nightmarish, too, as a few of the Jay Ward sounds and Bill Lava's ominous music cues really contributed to that. Maybe once a fully clear recording of Walter Greene's "Rock a Bye Pinky" score comes out, I will edit "Sugar and Spies" to fit it and redo the sound effects there as well, making it sound more like a typical late 60s-early 70s DePatie-Freleng cartoon (the only H-B sounds I'd probably use would be the "quick whistle zip outs", and I'd also use some Jay Ward effects and a wider variety of ricochets.)
Thanks! Of course, if more of the WB falls were out there I'd use those instead of the one over and over (I could do some rips if I wanted to, but some of them would end up being incomplete, so I think the only way I'd be able to get access to more of the WB bomb falls being if I worked for DigiPost or even Skywalker Sound) - same with Paul Julian's "meep-meeps", but then again these were the only two I've been able to find in really good quality.
Not to brag, but if only the HBO Max "Looney Tunes Cartoons" sounded like this...
But, honestly, this little project would be the template I'd use for if I ever decided to work as a sound editor and was called to work on something Looney Tunes related (and the DFE characters, as well. Peanuts would be more of an equal balance of WB, H-B and Jay Ward/Siracusa effects, no bias) - clear bias towards the WB sounds (including the Russell Brower stuff and the rarer Treg Brown effects), a good amount of Disney SFX, only a small amount of H-B and Jay Ward stuff - but I wouldn't object to using certain effects because of their connection to studios head by certain WB directors, specifically certain H-B effects used by DFE and those used in the Jones-era MGM/SIB Tower 12 stuff (excluding the H-B fast jet pass by). Of course, I might sneak in a few certain effects from whatever post service or whatever I might end up working for in the future - supposing I take copies of some of their custom effects with me when I leave them - but very sporadically.
I'd use very little effects from libraries like the Premiere Edition and Series 6000 that consist of newer general sound effects. I'd probably use nothing from certain newer cartoon SFX libraries like Series 4000 and Cartoon Express, plus Cartoon Trax Vol. 2, although I've found some nice bird chrips in the latter two that I wouldn't mind using - just because I don't want people complaining that I'm overusing HEAD BONK BIRDS CHIRPING/LIGHT TWITTERING OF BIRDS. However, I wouldn't mind using effects from certain royalty-free SFX libraries such as Freesound or AudioJungle sometimes.
As for riccos, I don't see myself using effects like the Universal riccos (although I wouldn't mind using them sporadically) or the MGM riccos in anything WB related, but I wouldn't mind using LONG SHELL SCREAM RICCO or EXPLOSIVE RICCO, and maybe the "tube riccos" very, very sporadically (maybe not, actually - it might seem kinda reminescent of Horta Editorial to use the "tube riccos")
As for your "Sugar and Spies" project - color me interested! I honestly think the "Rock-a-Bye Pinky" score could be re-constructed from various shorts, seeing it was the most used out of Walter Greene's PP scores, but it'd probably be best if La La Land or some other company got permission to release those scores. I personally think it'd be really cool if the "A Shot in the Dark" music could be used somewhere there!
Incidentally, since you mentioned making "Runnery" less nightmareish, maybe I could do the same for one of the Deitch Tom and Jerry shorts - which one in particular might be worth "enchancing" in your opinion?